Gary Saunders:  

CLASS OF 1971
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Arlington, VA
Raleigh, NC
Arlington, VA
Arlington, VA
Arlington, VA

Gary's Story

I periodically add to and edit this story to change the focus, so don't be surprised if you see a "recent change" notice. I was the Supervisor of the Stationary Source Compliance Branch for the North Carolina Division of Air Quality, Technical Services Section until September, 2023. I am now the Coordinator for DAQ Actions on Emerging Contaminants and PFAS . I live in Chapel Hill, just a stone's throw away from UNC. Some of you will remember that I was one of three people who ran the computer lab after school and in the evenings. Yes, I'm still into computers in a big way. Prior to joining the state agency, I was employed at several engineering consulting firms around the RTP area and specialized in energy and air pollution control issues. Much of my early career (1978-1991) was spent working for the US EPA on contract to all 10 EPA regions. I also performed work for the USAF and several of the DOE Labs. The nice thing about working for the state agency (now) is my life is more my own. When I was working for the engineering consulting firms, it was tough living out of a suitcase and having an aircraft or a rental car strapped to my rear-end all the time. Only once in all the traveling I did do I ever recall waking in the middle of the night and not knowing where I was. But being gone from home >80% of the time, as I was in 1983 and early 1984, destroys marriages as it contributed to the destruction of my first marriage. The movie "Up in the Air" speaks of being at home only 43 days...well, that was 1983 for me. My wife decided that a college student, 7 years younger than we were, was ultimately more interesting than I was, so they started an affair and she left me, divorced me and married him. With or without her, I was going to end up doing many of the things that she and I had planned to do together. As I discovered, it's hard to do that when you are traveling all the time. But the travel also took me to some interesting places and had me meet interesting people. I was in San Francisco on October 17, 1989 during the Loma Prieta temblor (I was staying at the edge of the Marina district where all those buildings collapsed and burned. The hotel I was staying in suffered minor damage and didn't have any power for several days). My son, who was back home with my ex-wife asked me "How was it, dad?" I responded, without thinking, "It brings a whole new definition to rock and roll." And I was 6 miles away when that rocket fuel plant blew up in Henderson, NV. I just happened to be passing through on the way to work at a power plant a couple of hours away. My ears rang for at least 8 hours after that. My travels for business and pleasure have taken me to every state in the US (and several US territories) as well as outside the US. I have been to more than 50% of all the counties (or county-like equivalents) in the US. By that I mean I have physically been on the ground in some form of ground transportation (even hiking) in the particular county or county-like equivalent for it to "count." The states where I have been in all the county-equivalents are Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Hawaii, Maryland, New Jersey, North Carolina, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Vermont, and Virginia. After high school, I attended NC State University in Raleigh, NC and received my degree in Chemical Engineering. I did flirt with an Electrical Engineering degree for awhile but decided ChE was were I really wanted to be (the time spent on EE was not wasted, however). While at State, I spent two years in Bowen dorm and two years in Bragaw dorm. For the first year or so, I continued to date my high school sweetheart (Judy) who graduated from Wakefield HS in 1972. But with both of us away at different schools and the tremendous growth that we each were experiencing, the long distance relationship was suffering and we agreed to release each other and part. We remain friends today even though our lives have taken vastly divergent paths from what we may have thought when we were dating. Though I did not go to NCSU for their sports, our football team was pretty good while I was there (I went to the Peach Bowl to see them play in 1973) and our basketball team won the National Championship while I was there (1974) with a stunning defeat of UCLA in the semi-final game. For a campus that had eight males to every female studying was not a problem though I had my share of dates during my sophomore year until I met my future (first) wife. The woman I met at NCSU at the end of the spring semester (the end of April 1973, my sophomore year) was the same age as I but she was pursuing her degree on a fast track to graduate about a year ahead of me (Patricia Harrison, Horticulture, graduated in the summer class of '74). We began our romance during the summer school sessions of 1973 and it continued after she graduated. She took a job in Raleigh and we continued our relationship. After I graduated, I stayed in Raleigh while pursuing job opportunities locally. We eventually married a couple of years after my graduation. We were married in an outdoor wedding at the WRAL gardens in Raleigh. Although it was a beautiful wedding of our design and I remember it fondly, getting married in the July heat, even in the evening, was a challenge. Although my son and his wife laugh at the pictures of me in a white tuxedo, it was consistent with an evening wedding. But it was terribly hot in that tux. We moved to an area south of the NCSU campus, eventually bought a new solar house and started a family. That marriage lasted from 1977-1984. As mentioned above, she started an affair in 1983, a couple of years after our son was born. My son earned his PhD in Electrical Engineering at NCSU. There is a strong NCSU connection in this family. Besides myself and my son, my son's wife, my ex-wife, her current husband all graduated from State. Even my current wife attended NCSU briefly well before I arrived. I took up mountain climbing and snow-skiing in the 1985. Snow skiing was always something I wondered about even when I was in Jr. and Sr. high school and something my first wife and I talked about. I went out and learned how to ski, got pretty good at it and tried to ski whenever I could. One time, when testifying in a case in Oakland, CA, I took my skis with me so I could ski on Mt. Hood in Oregon after I was done (in the middle of summer! Is that late skiing or early skiing?). My current wife used to ski but she's given it up (too hard on the body). I still snow ski whenever I can. Though I joke that I've fa...Expand for more
llen down some of the best mountains in the US, I can still "turn and burn" down the inclined elevator shafts of places like Snowbird (Utah). Vail is still one of my favorite places to ski and there's nothing quite like sitting in a nice, warm jacuzzi tub after a long day of skiing, drinking your beverage of choice while the snowflakes fall around you. I love the solitude and oneness with nature I can find in these high places. But I also love sharing it with people close and special to me. As for my mountain climbing, some people think I'm a little nuts and yet are also in awe of the mountain climbing. More than once I have gotten the "you must be out of your mind" response. But I refer them to this passage from a book I about climbing Denali in Alaska: "I like to say we climb because mountains are sacred places and climbing is a form of worship. We climb because the mountains are our church. Indeed IT--the Chief Guide, Raven, God, the Great Fly Swatter, or Buddha--can't be greater than flaming arrows shooting into the heavens at fifty below where the wind hums over a fin of ice and light cuts right through to your soul. Most importantly, by bringing myself over the edge and back, I discovered the passion to live my days fully, a conviction that sustains me like sweet water on the periodically barren plains of our lives." Pushing the limits and getting back down is where the thrill is, though getting to the top and not getting back down does not "count" either. I also took up photography in a big way. My current photography project is scanning some of the more than 30,000 images I took prior to going to digital images. I am compiling them into an autobiograghical book that traces my history for my son through his life and the things he's done and the places we've been. All of the photos I've uploaded here from days around Yorktown High School and NCSU are scanned from the 126 format Instamatic film that I still have around. One of the things I found most interesting was the way my career unfolded. Way back in UDM (for those of you who remember that at Yorktown), we did something on careers on what we envisioned ourselves doing in the future. I had forgotten all about that until my dad brought me some of my old papers from my closet in Arlington and there was this sheet that I had responded to. The number one thing I said I would like to have a career in: air pollution. In that respect I have been living the "career of my dreams" since I graduated from NC State. In 1986, I met a lovely woman through one of my coworkers. I was in the process of rebuilding my life after my wife had left me and had decided that if I met someone that I found interesting, I had recovered enough to at least consider dating once again as a single father. It was just after I returned from a business/ski trip in Colorado. We only knew of each other through what my coworker had told me about her and what my coworker had told her about me. As it turns out on the day we met, they were sitting in the mall rating guys looks (rating their buttocks really) as they returned their rental ski equipment to the local sports/ski shop. (I owned my own skis by that time, so I was just passing through). I thought nothing of that meeting. But my coworker told me she was really interested in me and that I should call her up. We started dating shortly after that and six years later we married. When I remarried (July 1992), I gained a step-daughter who lived with her mom. For my second marriage, we married on Mount Rainier (above the Paradise Inn) in Washington in another outdoor wedding (for me). Unlike the 90 degree day of my first wedding, it was rather pleasant on the side of the mountain at 5400 feet above sea level. After a couple of days in the park, we then honeymooned in Hawaii over the next couple of weeks. From one paradise to another. My son and and daughter-in-law are living in California after living in Sweden for two years and London for two years. My step-daughter has returned to Chapel Hill. People ask why, if I'm a graduate from NCSU, I would live in Chapel Hill in the (dark) heart of Tarheel country. "Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer" is what I tell them. Like many people, age and a desk job gradually added weight. In 2007, I decided it was time to get back to a healthy weight and over a five year span gradually decreased my weight through a combination of walking, hiking and sensible eating. No special diet, even though I did give up soft drinks. Just a more sensible portions and less fast food. I dropped my weight down to a few pounds above my weight when I graduated high school. I took up running again in 2013 in a sort of accidental way. On a family get together down in Charleston, SC we couldn't find a place to stay. Now we had been there many times and never had this problem. It turned out the Cooper River Bridge Run was going on that weekend and I signed up mostly to be able to take pictures on and from that bridge. Except for where I stopped to take pictures, I ran the race without any training and it felt good. I began training for a marathon the next month and ran my first marathon at age 60 in 5 hours and 10 minutes. I have run a total of seven marathons and a bunch of half marathons since then. My fastest time so far in conditions that were less than ideal has been 4 hours 34 minutes. I begin my training, in earnest, in November 2015 to qualify for the Boston Marathon. I have to have a time of better than 3 hours and 55 minutes in order to submit my time for consideration. But running 20 miles in a day doesn't seem intimidating anymore. Running for Boston qualification does. Favorite Movies: StarTrek movies, LOTR trilogy, the Matrix Trilogy, V for Vendetta, Inception Favorite Music: New Age/Electronic and Soundtracks by selected composers. Two Steps From Hell, Vangelis, Emerson, Lake and Palmer, Scorpions and Led Zeppelin Favorite Places: too many to list. Mt. Rainier in Washington, a certain waterfall on the island of Oahu, Times Square in NYC, Vail, Colorado, Venice, Italy and Nice, France all come immediately to mind. I am still a NASCAR fan as I was in high school. I became a big college basketball fan when I moved down here, and have become quite a Carolina Hurricanes hockey fan over the past several years. My dad is still living in the same house in Arlington. My brother (Yorktown Class of 1974) lives in the Northern Va region. My mom died in 2009 on her birthday. My life has turned out to be an interesting life.
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2014 Mrtle Beach Marathon
Judy and her Purple Dress
Hanging out
Sunrise on Mt. Rainier above Little Tahoma
Just A Walk in the Park (Mt. Rainier)
NCSU Celebration
Hillsborough Street Parade
NCSU Celebration
Hillsborough Street Parade
Hillsborough Street Parade
Hillsborough Street Parade
Hillsborough Street Parade
Sunrise over the NCSU Campus
Hiking on Mount Rainier
Pat and Gary
Both Wearing Plaid
Pat
Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid
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